Some parts of well-being are easier to talk about, like fitness, nutrition, and sleep, but stigma still stands in the way of having some of the tougher, more vulnerable conversations about our health. Substance use disorder is a mental illness that affects over 19.7 million Americans aged 12 and older, according to the National Survey on Drug Use and Health. On this episode, Deloitte chief well-being officer Jen Fisher has a frank conversation with Laura McKowen, author of We Are the Luckiest, about substance use disorder and the strength and resilience we can learn from those in recovery.